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Monday, July 12, 2004

Constructive criticism

Sometimes the wing dings like to complain that we on the Left have no constructive criticism, only Icomplaining comments and snipings. "Yes but what would YOU do different?" and, like that.

Well, I'm sick of it, and Besides there's nothing to it. So but just to prove them wrong, I'm going to submit a Constructive critisicm which I'm have about the Bushies and the (wrong) Iraq war.

It starts from the observation that, although Congress had to vote to approve War Powers for the actual war, somehow, here in this country (supposedly "democratic") we found ourselves in the Runup-to the Iraq war without any discussion, debate, or votes whatsoever.

You can see or hear this in any news story about that period of time: "During the Runup-to the war last year..."; "...a key part of his argument in the Runup-to the war"; "...sexed up intelligence for the Runup-to the war", etc. I take these to mean that the Runup-to the war was, The period of time for about 6-10 months prior to the war's start (March 2003).

So, , But I got to thinking. "Who even decided that we should enter into a Runup-to a war in the first place???" I thought. Of course the answer is: Bush did - unilaterally - with no debate - with no votes. Just one flick of his wrist and BOOM we're all of the sudden we're find ourselves in a Runup-to some phony war which NONE of us wants.

I never wanted to be in a Runup-to a war! And nobody asked me! Or my representative! The reason this is a big deal is, It seemed (to me) (causal observer lay person) that, Once we found ourselves in that Runup-to the war (which - remember - Bush did unilaterally NO VOTE), the war was almost an inevitability.

This is essentially practically like a loophole the Bushies have found for circumnavigating the Constitution!

This should not stand. This's is supposed to be a DEMOCRACY people. How on EARTH have we slipped this far into tyranny?

So, to fix it, here's what we should do. Pass a Constitutional amendment stating that the country CANNOT enter into a Runup-to ANY war, without a majority vote of both houses of Congress.

Simple, easy, and directly fixes the problem. No more bootstrapped wars by (undemocratically) beginning a Runup-to and then (after the Runup has succeeded) taking some phony War Powers vote; make the President get Congress's authorization at the start, before any Runup begins in the FIRST PLACE.

So never let it be said (anymore) that the Left doesn't have any POSITIVE ideas.

13 Comments:

At 7/12/2004 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this is just too obvious to ask, but since it's you: please define Run-up to war?

J.R.

 
At 7/12/2004 8:47 PM, Blogger iraqwarwrong said...

appAREntly someone doesn't pay attention to the news let alone read my post. this term is only used in the news like every two second yet you STILL need definitoin? crimony.

From my post: "I take these to mean that the Runup-to the war was, The period of time for about 6-10 months prior to the war's start". Now of course that's not a very *precise* definition but that doesn't pervent the media from using the term adn neither us should it prevent (from, using the term). Ok?

 
At 7/13/2004 1:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As usual you don't even understand the question. You are citing the press as the creators of runup to war. But you want to declare such activity unconstitutional.

Let me 'splain my point: every period from the time one conflict ends until another conflict begins would be considered a runup to war. An example is the period from the German invasion of the Sudetenland in 1939 until December 1941 when the U.S. joined the World War II would be considered a runup to war. Now you are suggesting that that period of time be declared illegal. I don't think that I can even grasp where you are headed with that bit of satire.

J.R.

 
At 7/13/2004 3:20 PM, Blogger iraqwarwrong said...

what are you talking about

1939 to 1941 was NOT a Runup-to ww2 for the U.S.

i don't even know where you get that. NOWHERE have i heard that!

source?

 
At 7/14/2004 6:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Source: U.S. History I took in high school and college. Only an uneducated moron (that's you) has never heard of lend-lease and what that meant to America.

 
At 7/14/2004 9:45 PM, Blogger iraqwarwrong said...

Uh (hate to break it to you) but Lend-lease was not a Runup-to the war. Proof: suppose Lend-lease happened but Pearl harbor never happened THEN would we have gotten into ww2 NO I THINK NOT therefore Lend-lease mandated activities (by themselfs) CANNNOT be said to qualify as a RUnup-to ww2.

I can't believe I'm have to explain something so BASIC as this. Highschool graduate did you say!? well.

Best wishes,

 
At 7/15/2004 5:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes indeedy, I finished high school, and in the top 75% of my class!

Even my socialist college history professors would gladly tell you that lend-lease was the sainted F.D.R.'s way of getting America deeply involved in WWII; so deeply involved that even if Japan had never attacked, Germany would most probably have reacted to our provocation by attacking our shipping and drawing us into the war. But I don't really expect you to spend even 2 minutes researching this junior. It would be anathema for you to look at anything that might actually be a valid argument either for or against your lame position.

 
At 7/15/2004 5:18 PM, Blogger iraqwarwrong said...

but there was Isolationists they would of kept us out of the war (everyone knows that) or didn't your highschool teach you that.

anwyay still none of this is germane to whether 1939-1941 was a Runup-to. you haven't shown ONE link referring to it as such! not one!!1

 
At 7/16/2004 3:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never mind. My mama told me never to argue with a fool.

 
At 7/17/2004 8:35 PM, Blogger iraqwarwrong said...

when was this? (recnetly)?

 
At 7/18/2004 7:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

no it was not "recnetly" nor was it recently.

 
At 7/18/2004 7:28 PM, Blogger iraqwarwrong said...

sure when you can't rebutt my substance attack my "so" called "spelling"

so tipical!

 
At 4/27/2005 1:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

just like Jon Lway. crybabies. and I am unanimus in that ohpinon.

jose (in acord w/o the posily on posting) (but not my rell (jose) name)

 

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