A Tougie
This one's a tougie: Which war do you think was the Iraqest war ever? (Asides from The Iraq War, of course).
Don't get me wrong. Goes without saying (taking as read) The Iraq War is obviously the most Iraq war ever. Assumably this is the very reason why we call it The Iraq War (one and the same). It narrowly beats out The Gulf War which was (too) a Iraq War but it was primarily Gulf, evidently.
But which got me to thinking yesterday at work (I do alot of this type's of thinking when I'm writing my VBA macro's): How Iraq are were the other wars? That we did on other people (besides Iraqi's). Surely some wars we have did were Iraqer than others. Maybe some were not very Iraq at all. So right there there's a gradation there. Mayhaps others were nearly as Iraq as The Iraq War itself (ok not FULLY Iraq but let's say 70% as Iraq). Well to my way of thinking this naturally rises the question of which one was the Iraqest of all. (Besides Iraq)?
So answer's in comments. Was is the Phillipines conflict of the early 1900s? Because that one was pretty Iraq from what I heard. But maybe there's been others we didn't cover with Mrs. Heilmann in USHAP (or the part where I had the chicken pocks and when I came back and she was showing The Molly McGwires and I was just totally lost).
For example did we do a war on Egpyt (a The Egypt War) because I bet if we did that would of been quite Iraq indeed (not as Iraq as it was Egypt of course but still reasonably Iraq). So anyways let me know either way. This is just my curiositys here, not The Iraq War related (directly) but a way to open up the conversation. Thing's getting to tense around here if you ask me. Also another angle, any good music you heard lately. YOu know whats a good soundtrack- Ocean's 12. Even better than 11 actually which was suprising. I like the one where she's (Catherine-Zeta Jones?) singing in a foreign language- good one for while your just chill. Ok anyways that was a good post I think, we covered alot.
Labels: 007, coalminers, excel, Iraq is a adjective, Sodebergh
posted by iraqwarwrong @ 3:50 PM
15 Comments:
Within question, the Iraqiest war of all time wsa the Revolusionery war, when those red-jackets were taxin, rapin the locales, n steelin are oil. I beleeve, that with out a thought, the amerkkan revlutionery war was by faar the iraq'iest war of all wars, eveb moor iraqi then are current iraq war, which was WRONG.
-Donkey Boner
Do you know a good reference for that war. If it was as Iraq as you say I should probably could read up on it. Also where is Revolusery(sp?) exactly. I mean I know the basic vicinity but where precisely.
Soderbergh really is one of the most underrated directors of our era. He got off to a shaky start with sex, lies & videotape (ha! who'd have thought he'd ever amount to anything back then + the title is so dated) now his films stagger me everytime. Traffic (important anti-drug message), Crash (important commentary on race relations), Oceans' films (important commentaries on gambling and theft). It's not even about the (important) message sent by each of his (later) films. Not at all. A Soderbergh film looks like no other. His unique talents as a director simply cannot be emulated. If ever there was a director who should try to make an anti-iraq-war movie, it would be him. In fact, I find it a little suspicious (or odd, anyway) that he hasn't come up with one yet.
p.s on a lighter note, arabs are the new japanese. Essentially, America wanted to test its A-bombs. It needed a war as an excuse. Japanese people looked like a good target for testing it on. churchill was a pretty big dhinger and america's poodle to boot. War could've been avoided. Hitler was bad but some kind of accomodation could've been achieved. Churchill didn;t seem to be doing anything to reach out to him or to tackle the root causes. No negotiations seemed to be taking place.
The problem is that because the Germans/Japanese weren't Arabs or even Muslims, we fail to recognize how iraqish the 2nd world war was. In a cynical ploy, america and britain let millions die in bombings before pulling out their nuclear bombs, thereby creating the illusion that the war wasn't merely a scheme for giving the atom bomb a couple of test runs and (2 birds with one stone) getting rid of a lot of oriental people.
Anon.
Anon.
"...Also where is Revolusery(sp?) exactly..."
You did speel it wrong, "revlusionary" is on the eest coast of amerikka, where those pilgrums originates, so, it is a peace of land, eest coost of amerkka, tri wikipedia four info, their grate!!
sorry, I wrote abuve post.
-Donkey Boner
Yes thanks for remembering my comments policy.
So anyways thanks for explaining about the other war. But why did we do a war on that at all. Wait scratch that I don't even want to know. This is so messed up. Where is my country back. How can a country that can makes movies like Harold and Maude also do The Iraq War and that other one you mentioned. IT's almost to the point where you just throw up your hand's. Not saying it is there but almost.
Anon I see the Oceans' films more as a subversion. To show how the ruling order is messed up. Did you notice how there plots always involve them impersonating the authoritys (police, etc). As if to say "The Emperor has no clothe's. It's pretty deep the more you thing about it. Also there RELLY funny. Like the part were Brad Pitt was eating, that cracked me up every time.
I didn't see oceans 13 yet. Is the eating scene there? I think in Oceans 11 brad was eating a slice of pizza but it wasn't 'ha ha' type of funny scene unless Soderbergh went over my head there.
Interesting about the impersonations and emperor's clothes. You've got a point. It really is deep!
Also, I think the Oceans films are about the corrupting influence of money and possessions; forcing us to to take a long, hard look at who we are. Searching deep within ourselves, asking ourselves some pretty tough questions: Would we have the integrity and human dignity to resist the urge to loot a casino?
Anon.
Your welcome for the war info, I've done lots of studeying and have my degree in historey, so I know what Im talking bout hear.
Anway, inregards to the ocean movies, I see them as more a pley on racial structure, with the blacks, like cheadle and bernie mac, being the best athletically, and that ghey-guy, being the fattest. Jus my obseveytion, is all. Any opinion on that?
shi'ite agian, I wrote abuve post.
-Donkey Doner
+ the oriental is very acrobatic. Pity there are no cute japanese girls there (pref. with the gothic lolita look).. Also how come no Muslims in the Oceans films or a female object of desire in a hijab?
Anon.
"...a female object of desire in a hijab?..."
Eye can bearly control myself when I sea a muslima in a full on burqa, ooohh, soo sexy, and I think that is the point of them neway, too show off the sexiness of the women.
I think soderberg is racist aganst muslim woman, why is their no hijab, why is there no burqa used during robbery???
This wrong iraqi war is like these Ocaen movies, racists!!!
-Donkey Boner
ok--lets get spacific--ok? as you all know (from high school, movies, comik books etc) the iraqiest war of all wuddav been "The War of The Island ofDrambuie" remember it? thats the one were the vikings (after they got gunpowder) invaded Drambuie to steel the Drambuie, and the Drambuieens woud steel some gunpowder and set BBED's(bote born explotive devises) after a cupple vikings were killt, they would kill thousands of Drambieeens and after a couple yrs the BBED's dropped dramagically. so-- that why its the iraqiest war ever-- see the similarness? aunti-dhinger
hay iraqwarwrong, sorry to hijack this amazingley pertinant soderburg post, butt....
Have you herd about that fatt-dhinger Rush Limbaugh (hush bimbo) and his opereytion chaos??? He is makeing his listeners (if u want to give em that much) to vote for kankle-woman over O'Bama, can you beleeve this???
I thought iraqwarwrong or subordinites should expose' this travisty, please, call out that dhinger hush and his nazi opereytion chaos!!! We need you're insite on this subject. Down with dhingers!!! The IRAQ WAR WAS WRONG.
-Donkey Boner
i think this war is probably the most stupid one in the history,cuz is just for OIL(one thing that u can buy and america have a lot of money and now we have biodiesel) but always they say "this is for freedom"we are the saints"and they said that in vietnam and said that hitler was satan but really they just want the fucking nuclear bomb to dropped in hiroshima and nagasaki.. so they sells to u their bullshits and lies but this is not for the iraki freedom thats another lie of the secret gabinet that's another brain washed from the uncle sam and the TV don't follow them
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